Wanted: Hand Exercises!

[Vdrummer]

I'll trade you:

What are Karl Perazzo Double Strokes?

Here's one for you. This is a Pipe band buzz rudiment sometimes called the Alec Duthart triplet, or Duthart Triplet.

RLR R LRL L which is a cross between a triple stroke roll and a herta (in rhythm), but with the articulation:

tap buzz tap tap - tap buzz tap tap

Brad

[Ant Man Bee]

Inverted double strokes (RLLR). Make sure they sound the same as your regular doubles or singles. This will REALLY beef up your doubles (especially if you work all wrists on a pillow). I'm assuming this isn't the same thing as the KP doubles [img]graemlins/smarty.gif[/img] .

As far as inspiring quotes go, "Never stop until your good becomes better, and your better becomes the best." - FZ

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[Dazzler]

Have you considered any Moeller stuff and the use of down-up-tap strokes. Letting the stick do the work and always accepting the rebound will get the sticks loose, relaxed and dancing on the snare, rather than being forced.

[peter c]

French or German, Frank?

I really like Brad's. When
it comes to rudiments, he is
my authority.

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Here's another that I use on
and off the kit:

Rr-L-R, Lr-R-L etc.

Accent the press/double-
stroke with the kick, when
at the kit. When not, tap
your right or kick foot.

The double can be played
as a 32nd or a 64th, if you
know what I mean.

When not accenting, with
the kick, move the press or
double to a different drum,
if you're at the kick. If NOT
at the kick, I prefer to do
these on a bed, on a quilt;
each of the squared-sections
being a different drum.

It's got to hurt just 'a-little'
for it to really be effective
in building your weak-hand.

No pain, no gain.

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[Frank Sanchez]

Hello All-

I am writing out a bunch of rudiments and stickings that I am working on onto my real feel practice pad. Among the ones I already have:

Eggbeaters, 6 stroke roll, Karl Perazzo Double Strokes, Paradiddle-diddles and Flammadiddles.

My question is do you guys have some great hand exercises that you would not mind sharing in R L R R fashion? I am also looking for a few really, kick-my-butt-make-me practice type quotes. If you have any of those, I would appreciate it as well.

Thanks in advance. Take care all. F.S.

[buga]

get Gary Chaffee's book "Sticking Patterns".

As far as I am aware, the first system to offer an alternative to the traditional rudimental approach came from Gary Chaffe in the form of his ?Stickings? book - from the ?Patterns? series. It is quite possibly, the only significant contribution to sticking technique (and its applications in rhythmic articulation) in modern times. It offers an approach that anyone serious about building a greater degree of lyrical facility on the drum set should understand, especially when considered in conjunction with the ?Rhythm and Meter? book from the same series.

For the benefit of those unfamiliar with Chafees? concepts, some of his basic ideas are included below. Note that you will find a number of rudimental figures arising in the groups.

A) 1.S+1.D (3note grouping)/ 1.S+2.D (5note)/ 1.S+3.D (7note)/ 1.S+4D (9note) etc.

B) 2.S+1.D (4)/ 2.S+2.D (6)/ 2.S+3.D (8)/ 2.S+4D (10) etc.

C) 3.S+1.D (5)/ 3.S+2.D (7)/ 3.S+3D (9)/ 3.S+4D (11) etc.

D) 4.S+1.D (6)/ 4.S+2.D (8)/ 4.S+3D (10)/ 4.S+4D (12) etc.

S=single D=double (#)=number of notes

This is just the tip of the iceberg but, to begin with, try playing the above at a 16th note rate in 4/4, accenting only the first stroke of each figure. Notice how figures begin to move across time, particularly when playing odd note groupings, creating a cross rhythmic effect. Experiment with accents in different positions and vary dynamic levels. Try playing combinations of sticking figures to create longer phrases. Also, try creating other polyrhythmic variations by changing the meter of the sticking i.e. play the figures as triplets, quintuplets, septuplets etc. over the basic pulse, in this case 4/4, initially accenting only the first stroke. Think about getting the other limbs involved, maybe by playing or reading foot patterns against sticking ostinatos or by breaking up figures between different limbs.

Like Dazzler mentioned learn the Moeller Stroke which will facilitate everything, Jim Chapin's video "Speed, Power, Control and Endurance" is great, and everything is covered on a practice pad(Real Feel)

The Moeller method is also broken down in Famularo's "It's Your Move"

[halloween]

Ok............

Got this one from MD technique issue

In 4/4 time played as eighth notes

rlrlrlrl
rrllrrrl
llrrrlll

etc....... continue till you get sixteen strokes on each hand.

md issue May 2003 p.86

[Yuk]

Hand exercices ??
Get the 154 (i'm not sure about the exact number) rudimental Wilcoxon solo's for modern drummers: that's all you need (including the mythic BlushDa if you look right!!)
That's my main book since many years and for a long time for sure !!!

[Frank Sanchez]

Thanks you guys- Keep those ideas coming in. They are very helpful.

Just wanted to answer a few questions.

Vdrummer. Karl Perazzo showed this variation of the open roll to Steve Smith and he shared it in his recent DVD's. I have been calling them by his name ever since. They are similar to inverted inverted doubles in that the emphasis is on the first stroke of the new bar, which is actually a single stroke. For example:
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R L L R R L L

For the full write out and demo, check out Steve's DVD's. I have really enjoyed that variation.

Peter. The request is more generic. I just wondered what others would deem important/challenging enough to put down permanently. Any sticking, German, French or otherwise is appreciated. By the way, who is Brad? Is it someone with a web-site. I have been getting most of my rudiment material from the Drum Club website, but if there is someone else out there, please let me know.

Dazzler. Yes I have checked into Moeller's technique and have applied it as well as I know how. At the same time, and this may not necessarily have been contradictory, Thomas Lang said (MD interview a few months back) that he hated uncontrolled bounces. I think the approach is somewhere in the middle. What do you think?

Ant Man Bee. FZ? Frank Zappa right?

Bozzio. Thank you for the suggestion about Chafee. I will look into that immediately.

Thanks again all. If you have any more, I still have a bit of room left.

Take Care All. F.S.

[peter c]

Brad is Vdrummer, Frank.

Remember his replies to the
Royal Scots? VERY versed in
the rudimentary school.

I asked because there are
exercises that one can do
French, which apply directly
to their grip and not German,
like variations of what I
described Boomer doing at
White Plains, NYC, in my
story about him.

These apply very directly to
the fingers and let's remem-
ber that Billy plays piano.
There are exercises that I
have seen keyboardists do
that help the French drum-
mer. I play both but mostly
French, now, at Boomer's
suggestion.

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